Problem on Instalation of Debian Lenny

[f***@br.ibm.com]

Hi Guys,

Well, I trying install Debian Lenny on System z behavior z/VM.
The first attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from the official
mirror ftp server (
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/current/images/generic/
) but, the message "[17179570.468526] Kernel panic - not syncing:
Attempted to kill init!" was displayed and the installation stop.

Very well..
The next attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from other release
of lenny (the first release announced in 01/23/2009) (
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/20090123+b1/images/generic/
) and the basic modules not found (the message bellow is displayed)

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â kernel version available in the archive. â
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â If you're installing from a mirror, you can work around this problem
â
â by choosing to install a different version of Debian. The install â
â will probably fail to work if you continue without kernel modules. â
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Well again not worked the installation..

I really need one help about this problem..

I have installed the Debian Etch a while ago, but today this version is
not supported in mirrors, I did not find any mirror what work fine with
this version.



Best regards,




Fernando Gieseler
_________________________________________
Technical Sales Specialist for System z
- Linux and z/VM -
IBM Brasil
fone: [phone]
cel: [phone]
fax: [phone]
ITN: 5 759-5848
T/L: 759-5848
***@br.ibm.com

[Frans Pop]

Well, I trying install Debian Lenny on System z on z/VM.
The first attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from the
official mirror ftp server (
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/current/images/generic/
Attempted to kill init!" was displayed and the installation stop. (the
file is attached)

I can confirm this. If I install the Lenny kernel on an already installed
Hercules system (running unstable) I also get the panic, so it clearly is
a kernel issue, not an installer issue.

There has been one s390 specific patch included in the latest kernel:
* [s390] Fix __div64_31 for CONFIG_MARCH_G5 (Closes: #511334)
but that patch was very well tested, including on my Hercules system, so I
would be surprised if that was the cause.

But it will definitely need to be investigated, but this will take time.
I'll see what I can do myself. I'll start with filing a bug report against
the kernel for this issue.

Very well..
The next attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from other
release of lenny (the first release announced in 01/23/2009) (
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/20090123+b1/images/generic/
) and the basic modules not found (the message bellow is displayed)

That is expected. The kernel version used in that image is no longer
available on the mirrors which means that the installer is unable to load
the additional installer kernel modules it needs.

I have installed the Debian Etch a while ago, but today this version is
not supported in mirrors, I did not find any mirror what work fine with
this version.

Etch should still work. But I've just tried it and unfortunately there's a
problem there as well.

In the syslog I get the following:
Jul 9 09:33:42 main-menu[656]: INFO: Menu item 'choose-mirror' selected
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/Release -O - | grep ^Suite: | cut -d' ' -f 2
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/Release -O - | grep ^Codename: | cut -d' ' -f 2
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: INFO: codename set to: etch
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/main/binary-s390/Release -O - | grep Architecture
Jul 9 09:33:48 anna-install: Queueing udeb etch-support for later installation
Jul 9 09:33:48 main-menu[656]: DEBUG: resolver (libc6): package doesn't exist (ignored)
Jul 9 09:33:48 main-menu[656]: INFO: Menu item 'download-installer' selected
Jul 9 09:33:49 net-retriever: gpgv: WARNING: multiple signatures detected. Only the first will be checked.
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: gpgv: Signature made Sat May 23 17:28:27 2009 UTC using RSA key ID 55BE302B
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: error: Bad signature on /tmp/net-retriever-858-Release.

You can work around this (and one other known issue) by adding the
following two boot parameters [1]:
suite=etch debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true

With that I could successfully install Etch. You could then upgrade to
Lenny, but obviously you'll have to be careful what kernel you install.

I'll file a bug report against the installer for the bad signature problem
so Etch installs can be fixed.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] I added them in the parmfile.debian.

[Frans Pop]

Post by Frans Pop
I can confirm this. If I install the Lenny kernel on an already
installed Hercules system (running unstable) I also get the panic, so
it clearly is a kernel issue, not an installer issue.
But it will definitely need to be investigated, but this will take
time. I'll see what I can do myself. I'll start with filing a bug
report against the kernel for this issue.

http://bugs.debian.org/536354

Post by Frans Pop
I'll file a bug report against the installer for the bad signature
problem so Etch installs can be fixed.

http://bugs.debian.org/536353

[Shrirang Kulkarni]

I am trying to install kernel 2.6 version from yesterday none of the mirrors
are working

Can someone help me on same?

Regards
Shrirang

Post by f***@br.ibm.com

Well, I trying install Debian Lenny on System z on z/VM.
The first attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from the
official mirror ftp server (

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/current/images/generic/

Attempted to kill init!" was displayed and the installation stop. (the
file is attached)

I can confirm this. If I install the Lenny kernel on an already installed
Hercules system (running unstable) I also get the panic, so it clearly is
a kernel issue, not an installer issue.
* [s390] Fix __div64_31 for CONFIG_MARCH_G5 (Closes: #511334)
but that patch was very well tested, including on my Hercules system, so I
would be surprised if that was the cause.
But it will definitely need to be investigated, but this will take time.
I'll see what I can do myself. I'll start with filing a bug report against
the kernel for this issue.

Very well..
The next attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from other
release of lenny (the first release announced in 01/23/2009) (

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/20090123+b1/images/generic/

) and the basic modules not found (the message bellow is displayed)

That is expected. The kernel version used in that image is no longer
available on the mirrors which means that the installer is unable to load
the additional installer kernel modules it needs.

I have installed the Debian Etch a while ago, but today this version is
not supported in mirrors, I did not find any mirror what work fine with
this version.

Etch should still work. But I've just tried it and unfortunately there's a
problem there as well.
Jul 9 09:33:42 main-menu[656]: INFO: Menu item 'choose-mirror' selected
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/Release -O - | grep
^Suite: | cut -d' ' -f 2
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/Release -O - | grep
^Codename: | cut -d' ' -f 2
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: INFO: codename set to: etch
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/main/binary-s390/Release-O - | grep Architecture
Jul 9 09:33:48 anna-install: Queueing udeb etch-support for later installation
Jul 9 09:33:48 main-menu[656]: DEBUG: resolver (libc6): package doesn't exist (ignored)
Jul 9 09:33:48 main-menu[656]: INFO: Menu item 'download-installer' selected
Jul 9 09:33:49 net-retriever: gpgv: WARNING: multiple signatures detected.
Only the first will be checked.
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: gpgv: Signature made Sat May 23 17:28:27
2009 UTC using RSA key ID 55BE302B
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: error: Bad signature on
/tmp/net-retriever-858-Release.
You can work around this (and one other known issue) by adding the
suite=etch debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true
With that I could successfully install Etch. You could then upgrade to
Lenny, but obviously you'll have to be careful what kernel you install.
I'll file a bug report against the installer for the bad signature problem
so Etch installs can be fixed.
Cheers,
FJP
[1] I added them in the parmfile.debian.
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[Frans Pop]

Hi,

Post by Shrirang Kulkarni
I am trying to install kernel 2.6 version from yesterday none of the
mirrors are working

If you really want help from people on a Debian mailing list, you will
really need to improve the way you ask your question...

1) Do not hijack an existing thread for an unrelated question!
Do not reply to an existing mail, but send a new mail.
2) Do *not* CC individual people, only mail the list!
See the Debian mailing list code of conduct [1].
3) Preferably do not use top posting when you reply to a mail [2].

4) Don't ask vague questions: they cannot be answered.
* "kernel 2.6 version from yesterday"
- what version exactly?
- what debian release are you running (stable, testing, unstable)?
- is it a security update or a "regular" package version?
* "none of the mirrors are working"
- that is *extremely* unlikely
- which mirrors did you actually try?
* what exact commands did you use?
* what exact errors did you get?
Make sure any output you include is in English!

Post by Shrirang Kulkarni
Can someone help me on same?

No sorry, I cannot help you because I really don't have a clue what your
actual problem is.

I understand that asking a question in a different language than your own
can be difficult, but please spend some extra time to make your problem
clear to the people you ask for help. Try to avoid wasting *their* time!

And the most likely result is that you don't get an answer at all.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
[2] http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

[f***@br.ibm.com]

Frans,

Thank you for your help.

I will try the installation of Etch and reply to you.

Best regards,



Fernando Gieseler
_________________________________________
Technical Sales Specialist for System z
- Linux and z/VM -
IBM Brasil
fone: [phone]
cel: [phone]
fax: [phone]
ITN: 5 759-5848
T/L: 759-5848
***@br.ibm.com




From:
Frans Pop <***@planet.nl>
To:
debian-***@lists.debian.org
Date:
09/07/2009 06:59
Subject:
Re: Problem on Instalation of Debian Lenny

Well, I trying install Debian Lenny on System z on z/VM.
The first attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from the
official mirror ftp server (

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/current/images/generic/

Attempted to kill init!" was displayed and the installation stop. (the
file is attached)

I can confirm this. If I install the Lenny kernel on an already installed
Hercules system (running unstable) I also get the panic, so it clearly is
a kernel issue, not an installer issue.

There has been one s390 specific patch included in the latest kernel:
* [s390] Fix __div64_31 for CONFIG_MARCH_G5 (Closes: #511334)
but that patch was very well tested, including on my Hercules system, so I
would be surprised if that was the cause.

But it will definitely need to be investigated, but this will take time.
I'll see what I can do myself. I'll start with filing a bug report against
the kernel for this issue.

Very well..
The next attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from other
release of lenny (the first release announced in 01/23/2009) (

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/20090123+b1/images/generic/

) and the basic modules not found (the message bellow is displayed)

That is expected. The kernel version used in that image is no longer
available on the mirrors which means that the installer is unable to load
the additional installer kernel modules it needs.

I have installed the Debian Etch a while ago, but today this version is
not supported in mirrors, I did not find any mirror what work fine with
this version.

Etch should still work. But I've just tried it and unfortunately there's a
problem there as well.

In the syslog I get the following:
Jul 9 09:33:42 main-menu[656]: INFO: Menu item 'choose-mirror' selected
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/Release -O - | grep
^Suite: | cut -d' ' -f 2
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/Release -O - | grep
^Codename: | cut -d' ' -f 2
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: INFO: codename set to: etch
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q

http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/main/binary-s390/Release
-O - | grep Architecture
Jul 9 09:33:48 anna-install: Queueing udeb etch-support for later
installation
Jul 9 09:33:48 main-menu[656]: DEBUG: resolver (libc6): package doesn't
exist (ignored)
Jul 9 09:33:48 main-menu[656]: INFO: Menu item 'download-installer'
selected
Jul 9 09:33:49 net-retriever: gpgv: WARNING: multiple signatures
detected. Only the first will be checked.
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: gpgv: Signature made Sat May 23 17:28:27
2009 UTC using RSA key ID 55BE302B
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not
found
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: error: Bad signature on
/tmp/net-retriever-858-Release.

You can work around this (and one other known issue) by adding the
following two boot parameters [1]:
suite=etch debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true

With that I could successfully install Etch. You could then upgrade to
Lenny, but obviously you'll have to be careful what kernel you install.

I'll file a bug report against the installer for the bad signature problem
so Etch installs can be fixed.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] I added them in the parmfile.debian.

[f***@br.ibm.com]

Frans,

Thank you again for your help.

The option in DEBIAN PARMFILE corrected the installation and everything
worked perfectly.

Taking the message, I wonder if there is a forecast for there is a 64bit
version of Debian on System z, you have any idea?


Best regards,



Fernando Gieseler
_________________________________________
Technical Sales Specialist for System z
- Linux and z/VM -
IBM Brasil
fone: [phone]
cel: [phone]
fax: [phone]
ITN: 5 759-5848
T/L: 759-5848
***@br.ibm.com




From:
Fernando Gieseler/Brazil/***@IBMBR
To:
debian-***@lists.debian.org
Date:
09/07/2009 09:40
Subject:
Re: Problem on Instalation of Debian Lenny




Frans,

Thank you for your help.

I will try the installation of Etch and reply to you.

Best regards,



Fernando Gieseler
_________________________________________
Technical Sales Specialist for System z
- Linux and z/VM -
IBM Brasil
fone: [phone]
cel: [phone]
fax: [phone]
ITN: 5 759-5848
T/L: 759-5848
***@br.ibm.com



From:
Frans Pop <***@planet.nl>
To:
debian-***@lists.debian.org
Date:
09/07/2009 06:59
Subject:
Re: Problem on Instalation of Debian Lenny

Well, I trying install Debian Lenny on System z on z/VM.
The first attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from the
official mirror ftp server (

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/current/images/generic/

Attempted to kill init!" was displayed and the installation stop. (the
file is attached)

I can confirm this. If I install the Lenny kernel on an already installed
Hercules system (running unstable) I also get the panic, so it clearly is
a kernel issue, not an installer issue.

There has been one s390 specific patch included in the latest kernel:
* [s390] Fix __div64_31 for CONFIG_MARCH_G5 (Closes: #511334)
but that patch was very well tested, including on my Hercules system, so I
would be surprised if that was the cause.

But it will definitely need to be investigated, but this will take time.
I'll see what I can do myself. I'll start with filing a bug report against
the kernel for this issue.

Very well..
The next attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from other
release of lenny (the first release announced in 01/23/2009) (

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/20090123+b1/images/generic/

) and the basic modules not found (the message bellow is displayed)

That is expected. The kernel version used in that image is no longer
available on the mirrors which means that the installer is unable to load
the additional installer kernel modules it needs.

I have installed the Debian Etch a while ago, but today this version is
not supported in mirrors, I did not find any mirror what work fine with
this version.

Etch should still work. But I've just tried it and unfortunately there's a
problem there as well.

In the syslog I get the following:
Jul 9 09:33:42 main-menu[656]: INFO: Menu item 'choose-mirror' selected
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/Release -O - | grep
^Suite: | cut -d' ' -f 2
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/Release -O - | grep
^Codename: | cut -d' ' -f 2
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: INFO: codename set to: etch
Jul 9 09:33:47 choose-mirror[808]: DEBUG: command: wget -q

http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian//dists/oldstable/main/binary-s390/Release
-O - | grep Architecture
Jul 9 09:33:48 anna-install: Queueing udeb etch-support for later
installation
Jul 9 09:33:48 main-menu[656]: DEBUG: resolver (libc6): package doesn't
exist (ignored)
Jul 9 09:33:48 main-menu[656]: INFO: Menu item 'download-installer'
selected
Jul 9 09:33:49 net-retriever: gpgv: WARNING: multiple signatures
detected. Only the first will be checked.
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: gpgv: Signature made Sat May 23 17:28:27
2009 UTC using RSA key ID 55BE302B
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not
found
Jul 9 09:33:50 net-retriever: error: Bad signature on
/tmp/net-retriever-858-Release.

You can work around this (and one other known issue) by adding the
following two boot parameters [1]:
suite=etch debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true

With that I could successfully install Etch. You could then upgrade to
Lenny, but obviously you'll have to be careful what kernel you install.

I'll file a bug report against the installer for the bad signature problem
so Etch installs can be fixed.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] I added them in the parmfile.debian.

[Frans Pop]

Post by f***@br.ibm.com
Taking the message, I wonder if there is a forecast for there is a 64bit
version of Debian on System z, you have any idea?

There already is a 64-bit kernel available (just install the -s390x kernel
image package) in past and current Debian releases.

The kernel team has just dropped support for 31-bit systems in unstable
[1], so Debian Installer will start using and installing a 64-bit kernel
by default for the next stable release (Squeeze).
Whether this will also result in changing the userland to 64-bit I don't
know.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-s390/2009/05/msg00000.html

[Frans Pop]

Post by f***@br.ibm.com
Well, I trying install Debian Lenny on System z behavior z/VM.
The first attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from the
official mirror ftp server
(ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/current/im
ages/generic/) but, the message "[17179570.468526] Kernel panic - not
syncing: Attempted to kill init!" was displayed and the installation
stop.

With the stable point release that's now available from the mirrors, s390
should be installable again for Lenny.

Note that new CD images with the fixed version will only become available
sometime in the next few days.

Cheers,
FJP

[Martin Grimm]

Post by Frans Pop

Post by f***@br.ibm.com
Well, I trying install Debian Lenny on System z behavior z/VM.
The first attempt was: I downloaded the essentials files from the
official mirror ftp server
(ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-s390/current/im
ages/generic/) but, the message "[17179570.468526] Kernel panic - not
syncing: Attempted to kill init!" was displayed and the installation
stop.

With the stable point release that's now available from the mirrors, s390
should be installable again for Lenny.
Note that new CD images with the fixed version will only become available
sometime in the next few days.
Cheers,
FJP

I can confirm this. Just installed a new guest successfully. This wasn't
possible with the previous version of the installer images.

Greetings,
Martin
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53225 Bonn
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